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    #16
    Remapping an engine would mean altering the ignition, cam timing, Air/Fuel mixture in order to extract more power. That in simple terms means getting your engine to increase the amount of air it breathe and extract along with increasing or decreasing the fuel levels injected into the combustion chamber.

    Now doing that to a fully stock engine would give very little gains (area under the curve) compared to an engine with some modes on it, but it would better out the drivability of your car. WHY??!! Well its simple, you are remapping the engine with the same restricted OEM induction system (no sufficient amount of air) and a restricted exhaust system. So even if altered ur timing to open wider for more air where would it come from and how can it be exhausted with the OEM systems.

    From my experience working on cars i wouldn’t go for a remap at first and specially if i am planning to install some modes on my car. I would first go ahead with my modes that would improve the breathing characteristics of my engine such as a good induction kit along with a higher flow exhaust system, and maybe a higher grade cam. After that i would ask for a tune that would utilize all the modes i've installed to achieve the highest gain possible that would be extracted along the power band of the engine.

    In my case and on my previous iDingpower M3 i tried to install the famous Alpha-N tune that would delete the MAF functions and use the RPM and TPS to determine the amount of air going to the engine, but i didnt have the CF plenum that would increase the amount of air injected as required and i did not gain any noticeable ponies so i reversed back to stock.

    Sorry for the long post guys, but this is directly from a person who has a hands on experience with cars (spent more time under the car than on my bed :)) go for it after you are done moding your car, but if you want to do it to slightly improve the drivability/consumption and gain few butt dyno HPs then go for it :)

    That doesnt include any BMW with a force induction system (e.g 335i :D)
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      #17
      :goodpost:

      Originally posted by Ayham View Post
      The key to a successful tune is how much area is there under the hp/torque-RPM graph, NOT how much the peak numbers are for power and torque.
      that's very important & not only for a tune, but for any horsepower or torque curve even on a stock engine..

      good curves in my opinion don't just have high peaks, but should have the largest area under the curve particularly over the rpm range that you use when accelerating (ex approx 5000 - 8000rpm on an S54)

      looking just at the peak horsepower is really misleading! i've driven some cars with high peak horsepower but got really disappointed after redlining a certain gear and shifting to the next..

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        #18
        [QUOTE=Ayham;71386]What I know is that both maps are altered together. And even for a 318i, you can feel a difference at least in fuel consumption..

        :iagree: but as i know N42 engine used Bosch DME ME9.2 fuel injection system combined with BMW's new Valvetronic system. as per my poor experince in this field Valvetronic working on the inlet side of the valvetrain where VANOS controlled both inlet and exhaust cams from the engine ECU, valvetronic uses a separate ECU to control the inlet cam timing precisely. and the aim of this technology is to give the optimum power and torque at any point in the rev. depending on how the car is being driven. it's like combining the best characteristics of many engines all in one motor. and im not assuming that i can get big power from a modern engine like N42 :banghead:
        the technology employed by BMW is so complex that it has been designed to operate under very specific driving condition. and it has been designed for exceptional fuel economy not power so im realistic with my expectations :drive:
        and i ll check with bassel since it ll be electronic tuning of main ECU to get the majority of power increases considering the seprate vavetronic ECU.

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          #19
          Nothing to add up mashallah you guy's have great knowledge

          the most important thing is that you need to do a remap from time to time
          couse here in GCC , weather,Temp,Humidty ..etc can effect allot

          I Remember the ZM i did we dyno it and made 275WHP (stock Engine) on cold weather and (264WHP) on hot weather with the Stock Tune,

          Therefore you need to do some correction to your Engine Brain in order to gain what you losse

          Forced inductions :rofl::rofl:

          Good luck cold weather is the Bimmer weather :iagree:

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            #20
            Originally posted by M_Powerholic View Post
            His nickname is Jassem99 on our forums... :)
            R u sure about his nickname?! :hmm:
            there is no member on this name

            E60 M5: LCI OEM Tail Light, CF Front/Side Grill, Bright White Angel eyes"
            E46-Sold: OEM MtechII, Eisenmann exhaust (2x83mm), Bilstein sport shocks, H&R sprot springs, 18” OEM rims (F:225, R:255), M3 auto folding/heated mirrors, clear (LEDs tail lights/corners/sides), Orion V2 angel eyes, Xenoflo HID bulb (6000K) low beam, CF (interior/knob/steering wheel trim/doors handles/grille), Alcantara (gear boot/hand brake)

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              #21
              yes we are sure, anyways bassel is out of town and will be back on 4th of oct, pm me if ur interested and i can gve u his number ..

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                #22
                member name doesn't exist......

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                  #23
                  Ayham referred to it in some old thread... :dunno:

                  For tuning, you may want to talk to Bassel Daham (Jassem99 on our forums and adpcc.com).
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by M5drift View Post
                    yes we are sure, anyways bassel is out of town and will be back on 4th of oct, pm me if ur interested and i can gve u his number ..
                    check ur pm

                    E60 M5: LCI OEM Tail Light, CF Front/Side Grill, Bright White Angel eyes"
                    E46-Sold: OEM MtechII, Eisenmann exhaust (2x83mm), Bilstein sport shocks, H&R sprot springs, 18” OEM rims (F:225, R:255), M3 auto folding/heated mirrors, clear (LEDs tail lights/corners/sides), Orion V2 angel eyes, Xenoflo HID bulb (6000K) low beam, CF (interior/knob/steering wheel trim/doors handles/grille), Alcantara (gear boot/hand brake)

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                      #25
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                        #26
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                          #27
                          Is it worth doin the remap for the e46 M3 NA engine?? will the 18HP increase by Viezu show a noticeable difference in driving characteristics?
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Wazif View Post
                            Is it worth doin the remap for the e46 M3 NA engine?? will the 18HP increase by Viezu show a noticeable difference in driving characteristics?
                            yes it will !!
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Wazif View Post
                              Is it worth doin the remap for the e46 M3 NA engine?? will the 18HP increase by Viezu show a noticeable difference in driving characteristics?
                              Oh yeah :D

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                                #30
                                it is not the hp

                                it is the area under the graph, and the range it peaks the power

                                u can read Ayham's first post

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