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    Porsche Accuses Nissan of Cheating on GT-R Nurburgring 'Record' Lap Run

    As it was in the olden back alleys of the world’s classic cities, that arguments among men were settled with two pairs of fists, slugging it out until only one was left standing. Now, today, it seems this arena has become the Nurburgring racetrack and auto makers are the men. We all heard about Nissan GT-R’s magnificent times posted on this track, even saw what was said to be the video of the real thing. Videos don’t lie. Unedited videos anyway. Nissan’s rival at GT-R level, Porsche, has no problem with video evidence. What it has a problem with is Nissan’s claim of a standard car crushing its own contender, the 911 Turbo, on this legendary track with a blistering time of 7 minutes and 29 seconds back in April 2008.

    August Achleitner, the 911 product chief, spoke to the CARSguide at the Australian press preview of the latest 911 Cabriolet.
    "This wonder car with 7:29 could not have been a regular series production car," he said. "For us, it's not clear how this time is possible. What we can imagine with this Nissan is they used other tyres."

    To put credit to their suspicions, Achleitner’s team went and bought a GT-R in the US and took it on a back to back to back run against its 911 Turbo as well as the manic GT2, just in case. The tests were done under the same conditions using standard Michelin Sport Cup rubber.

    "The Nissan is a good car. I don't want to make anything bad with my words," Achleitner was quoted as saying. "It's a very consistent car. But this car is about 20 kilos heavier than the Turbo . . ."

    For this reason alone it can be seriously questioned whether GT-R really did achieve its feat as a standard car. The other reasons are the so-called “minor tweaks” that were performed on it before its run at Nordschleife.

    For the record here are the times (in brackets) that Porsche achieved with all three cars in standard garb.
    Nissan GT-R (7:54)
    Porsche 911 Turbo (7:38)
    Porsche GT2 (7:34)
    ...petrolhead

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    #2
    16 seconds difference between the GT-R and the Turbo
    There is something really fishy about this...

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      #3
      hmmmm so it wasn't stock??

      and all the guys who bought the GTR with high premiums got punked :rofl:

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        #4
        Originally posted by Haissam View Post
        hmmmm so it wasn't stock??

        and all the guys who bought the GTR with high premiums got punked :rofl:
        :rofl:

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          #5
          I am a little disappointed, I really expected Porsche to come back and beat the GTR lap time, not make excuses. The GTR has beaten the 911 more than once, on more than one track so this argument holds no weight. Perhaps, their driver is not as good driving the GTR as the Nissan driver, there are so many variables. Porsche you have the money and the resources so just beat the GTR, if you can !

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            #6
            A "test driver" can't be responsible for the full 16-second gap under the same conditions! And I'm guessing he's the same driver for the 3 cars....Unless Porsche gave him some sleeping pills before hitting it with the GT-R :rofl:

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              #7
              LoLz Ayham :rofl:

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                #8
                i would buy the 911 turbo at anytime ... Nissan will always stay a Nissan no matter what !! ..but Porsche is another league :bow:
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                  #9
                  Porsche is a different world, cant compare it to a Nissan :nono:

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                    #10
                    Well guys we r not talking about a Nissan here, its the mighty GTR.....

                    A lagend, and world wide known killer....... A car that was banned, by changing the rules on international races, for winning it's class always.....


                    C'mon guys, i believe that the Nissan could do that time on the ring without breaking a sweat, and if porsche has a problem with it why not fit semi-slick tires and do a trial run on the ring ;)

                    I bit they wouldnt............ and that was the regular GTR (not the V-spec :D)
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bashar M. View Post
                      Well guys we r not talking about a Nissan here, its the mighty GTR.....
                      Which is still a Nissan that would lose value n the second hand market very soon :yippy:
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nabil View Post
                        Which is still a Nissan that would lose value n the second hand market very soon :yippy:
                        +1
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nabil View Post
                          Which is still a Nissan that would lose value n the second hand market very soon :yippy:
                          +1

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                            #14
                            Hmmmm, but that is not the point isnt it ;)
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                              #15
                              The point is they cheated, u r right, lets go to the main point :D
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