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    Rumor: BMW M Division -The Road Ahead. The New BMW M5



    The next generation BMW M5 is due in 2011 and with a year to go, the rumors around the highly expected model are started to pile up. At times, it can be difficult to discern the truth from speculations, or to filter through the amount of misinformation and clues, but our duty remains to report these news as well and give counterarguments if needed.

    With information coming from multiple sources (some mention north of 600 hp, others around 580 hp), the truth is that the new M5’s specs still remain a mystery and when BMW is ready to reveal more information, we will be one of the first to see them.

    Without any further ado, let’s have a look at what Scott27, an BMW insider has to say about the upcoming M5 and Motorsport division’s future plans. Is it all true? Maybe. Can things change in the near future? Absolutely. In an industry where being able to dynamically and fast change things, is crucial to adapt to new requirements or changing markets.

    The text below has been reproduced in its original form and some grammatical errors might occur, along with a small PR twist.

    Update: Car Magazine mentions some of the facts stated below.

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    New World Order – The New BMW M5.

    Whilst it’s true that the M Division has come in for quite a few comments regarding current product or lets not beat about the bush The BMW X5 M and BMW X6 M. Identified as the “next Chapter” in M. Derided by enthusiasts and journalists alike. Has the M Division lost it? Has the M Division lost it’s focus? Does M stand for marketing now?
    Does the M philosophy no longer remain pertinent?

    Are some of the comments.

    The Pinnacle of Efficient Dynamics.

    With the creation of BMW Efficient Dynamics. Technology aimed at reducing fuel consumption without sacrificing driving pleasure and carbon dioxide emissions spreading throughout the BMW portfolio. One question remained unanswered how will the M Division benefit ? And how will the M division remain relevant in the long term?

    BMW M Division will become the pinnacle of Efficient Dynamics. Welcome to the Brave New World of Performance.

    Lightweight construction.

    BMW M cars will now separate themselves from the core cars by utilizing the same platform but for the relevant M model. The floorplan will be pressed in aluminium. As the core 5er begins to use lightweight materials such as aluminum on the door and bonnet skins, these will transfer over as will an optional Carbon Fiber reinforced roof – A first for an M5 , and a first for a BMW performance sedan.

    BMW Active Aerodynamics

    First showcased on the GINA Concept Car – A car that was way ahead of it’s time and key component in the BMW Efficient Dynamics programme.
    In principle to reduce drag and boost downforce and lower fuel consumption. Special Aerodynamic aids that will move automatically incorporated in the front of the car including the outer-edge of the wheel arches , front bumpers and within the grille intake. Mini Turbines are incorporated in the grille which convert drag under braking into electricity.

    KERS (Kinetic Energy recovery System)

    The new M5 will spearhead a radical addition to further reduce consumption. Conceived well within when BMW were still commencing with their F1 Programme. With KERS developed for the F1 car , BMW also created a synergy for an application of such a system to a road car.
    Successfully applied to the Road Car division the KERS developed by M division consists of an on-off-on again programme involving Twin Parallel Supercapacitors between the driveshaft providing 10 sec power boost at the press of a button. The idea is to have stored up the energy and allow the driver to unleash the power on demand. An adaption of this idea will feature in the six cylinder Active Hybrid 5 Concept Car that will be shown in Geneva in March 2010.
    Tests carried out within the confines of BMW’s private proving grounds are ongoing as the KERS is relatively new tech. The development of the new car remains in status.

    The Importance of Character

    The V10 in the E60 M5 is truly a work of art. Although a V10 was considered and remains as a possible venture for an additional M model.
    The new car inherits the V8 engine found within the BMW X5 and X6 M models. Although BMW stress that the engine will be unique to the M5 with just under 580 PS.
    The V8 although shared with the X5M and X6M is completely individual and unique to the M5. With BMW adapting the engine to suit the M5 and it’s character it’s not a complete transplant. Character in an M5 is essential as is sound. The engine has to synergize with the DKG Transmission and the KERS.
    The V8 will in turn be faster and more powerful than the outgoing V10 and sound just as spectacular.
    The V8 will also feature cylinder shutdown also to aid fuel consumption with overall figures expected to be between 25-30% better than the E60 M5.

    As well as a unique engine , The M5 will inherit a Dual clutch transmission which will be unique to the M5, based upon the 7 speeder found within the current M3 , eight Gears will be available and will be equipped with a stop-start control. The DCT will also be operated with steering wheel mounted paddles. The M5 although not at first will also be available with optional Carbon Fiber brakes, currently being trialled.
    Customizable driving options will also feature as will a new electronic stability control with torque vectoring and roll control. Efficient Dynamics features will also be available from the touch of a switch.

    Designed for Performance

    The M5’s secret has always been to remain understated and discreet on the outside , but within lies the beast.
    Typical M5 and BMW M aerodynamic features adorn the car. With the new 5er central grille being much larger the central intake size has been diminished , although the brake outlets are larger. Wheel arches are swollen to add some mass on the F10’s athletic muscle. A side air intake is placed underneath the character line which climaxes at the wheel arch.
    The Side skirts are more sculptured allowing for good aerodynamics.
    At the rear the typical Quad exhausts remain with a sculpted diffuser and central intake. A small bootlid spoiler allows the car to remain understated and restrained.

    What Comes After?

    In addition to the standard luxury performance sedan BMW will offer a more hardcore model in the same vain as the BMW M5 CSL 25th anniversary car. Swapping Luxuries for Performance and being as hardcore as they come. Not available at first but coming on steam eighteen months later. BMW want to expand the M cars by having the core model and something more inclined for enthusiasts.

    A Touring model is under consideration.

    Just as BMW teased the E60. The F10 BMW M5 will bow as a Production concept at the 2011 Geneva Autoshow with the production model debuting in the early summer before the world premiere at the IAA Frankfurt in 2011. European sales begin at the same time.
    Source : www.bmwblog.com
    Drive To The Satisfaction... A Dreamer's Pursuit

    2013 F10 M5 - M Drivers Package
    Alpine White / Sakhir Orange

    Mods: ZCP Kidney Grilles

    2009 E92 M3 - M Drivers Package
    Melbourne Red / Imola Red [Manual] (SOLD)

    Mods: Full Catless AlphaMale Performance Valvetronic Exhaust | Macht Schnell Stage 2 Air Intake | H&R Lowering Springs | ECS Tuning Spacers | Carbon Fiber Front Splitters | Glossy Black Kidney Grilles | Plasti-Dipped Fender Grilles | LCI Tail Lights | Carbon Fiber H-Style Diffuser | Stage 2 Tune (Simon MotorSport) | Macht Schnell Pulleys | Carbon Fiber LowKick Trunk Spoiler

    2003 E46 M3 - Carbon Black / Imola Red (BLOWN)
    Mods: Rear Smoked LEDs | Front Smoked Corner Lights | 4300K Phillips 85122+ Bulbs | BMC Drop-In Panel | Matt Black Kidney Grilles | 7500K CCFL | Matt Black Side Grilles | FOX SS Muffler | VIEZU Remap | CSL Carbon Fiber Splitters | EvoSport Under Drive Pulley Kit | K&N Cold Air Intake | K&N Scoops | Hawk Carbon-Ceramic Brake Pads | R1Concepts Zinc-Coated Cross-Drilled Rotors | Agency Power Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines | Hyper Black M3 Competition Rims | FXR Bi-Xenon Projectors w/ Clear Lenses | 70% 3M Tinting
    1997 E39 528i - Champagne Beige / Sand Beige (SOLD)
    Mods: Front & Rear OEM Facelift | K&N Cold Air Intake | Straight Pipes | MAF Delete | Custom Made Air Intake Elbow | 3.15 LSD Differential | SplitFire Spark Plugs | E36-7 Z3 OEM 17" Rims | 50% 3M Tinting

    Need Assistance?
    eMail:
    Rafik@bmwclubuae.com


    @Rafik_Jabbour (Link)

    #2
    The E39 M5 crowd will go gaga over this! Now you don't have to source out your S62's supercharger/turbo kit to reach these firgures!! It's off the shworoom.....Remapping will be a blood bath market over these babies :D

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      #3
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      +1
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      HFP Front Lip | HFP Rear Trunk Spoiler | Intake Resonator Delete | MaxSpeed Lowering Springs | Rear Seat Delete | SSP Wheels - Gold 17"s | Pirelli Tires | Custom Intake Tubes | M/T Shifter Boot | Smoked Taillights/Reverse Lights | Black Housing Headlights | Yellow Lens Fog Lights | Carbon Fiber Front Grille | Shadow Black Window Trim | Custom Rear Diffuser-like Mod | PlastiDip on Rear Emblems






      / / / M .... The Most Powerful Letter In The World

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        #4
        and hopefully all this technology (and the engine of course) will make it to the M1 in a couple years!!

        BMW history:
        07 Z4MC | 01 330ci | 99 Z3R | 93 325ic

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          #5
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          I hope so Haissam :)
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          07' HFP Accord | Current
          HFP Front Lip | HFP Rear Trunk Spoiler | Intake Resonator Delete | MaxSpeed Lowering Springs | Rear Seat Delete | SSP Wheels - Gold 17"s | Pirelli Tires | Custom Intake Tubes | M/T Shifter Boot | Smoked Taillights/Reverse Lights | Black Housing Headlights | Yellow Lens Fog Lights | Carbon Fiber Front Grille | Shadow Black Window Trim | Custom Rear Diffuser-like Mod | PlastiDip on Rear Emblems






          / / / M .... The Most Powerful Letter In The World

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            #6
            4.4 s ?? I was hoping flat 4 secs atleast with the weight loss and 578hp.. Apart from this, here comes the end to manual gears on M5s :thumbsdown:

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              #7
              Which could mean your car value would appreciate ;)

              Btw, companies post "conservative" 0-100 numbers usually, so I'm thinking with privateers, the car would see 4 seconds..Who knows!

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                #8
                Originally posted by Ayham View Post
                Which could mean your car value would appreciate ;)
                +1 now on the E39 M5 owners are proudest ;)

                But the numbers posted dont seem to be exactly correct, how hard is it to cross the 600hp barrier ? This should easily be made keeping in mind its the fastest sedan in the world, plus its got competitors, RS6, AMGs, all those count my friend :) Im expecting something better than this..

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                  #9
                  Marketing pitch my friend...Release it with a tad less output than 600hp and you'll have the entire aftermarket industry and new owners alike working toward "breaking" the 600hp barrier. Release it with the 600hp threshold, it won't make much splash until it jumps to the 700hp mark.

                  Kinda like price tags; $34.99 or $35? Use the first tag, and your merchandise costs $34 in the collective mind of consumers..My $0.2

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ayham View Post
                    Marketing pitch my friend...Release it with a tad less output than 600hp and you'll have the entire aftermarket industry and new owners alike working toward "breaking" the 600hp barrier. Release it with the 600hp threshold, it won't make much splash until it jumps to the 700hp mark.

                    Kinda like price tags; $34.99 or $35? Use the first tag, and your merchandise costs $34 in the collective mind of consumers..My $0.2
                    Now it makes sense, very well explained bro :bow:

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                      #11
                      me likey... I agree with Ayham, the shortage seems to be intentional and deliberate! the aftermarket tuners and gonna LOVE this car!
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                      Something EVIL is brewing... :///M:

                      Cry havoc... and let slip the dogs of WAR!!!

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                        #12
                        Guys don't forget its not a Horse Power war anymore. The E92 335i has 306HP while the E46 M3 has 343HP but the 335i goes side by side with an M3 and on some certain speeds it throws a gap between it & the M3.

                        578HP on a Twin Turbo engine means LOADS of torque which would make the car fly !! Plus, guys don't forget that they say that the E60 M5 can go to 100 in 4.7s while it does it in 4.3 & 4.1 with launch control !! if THEY're saying its 4.4s that means it will be around 4.1s and I'm expecting a 1/4 run of mid 11s..
                        Drive To The Satisfaction... A Dreamer's Pursuit

                        2013 F10 M5 - M Drivers Package
                        Alpine White / Sakhir Orange

                        Mods: ZCP Kidney Grilles

                        2009 E92 M3 - M Drivers Package
                        Melbourne Red / Imola Red [Manual] (SOLD)

                        Mods: Full Catless AlphaMale Performance Valvetronic Exhaust | Macht Schnell Stage 2 Air Intake | H&R Lowering Springs | ECS Tuning Spacers | Carbon Fiber Front Splitters | Glossy Black Kidney Grilles | Plasti-Dipped Fender Grilles | LCI Tail Lights | Carbon Fiber H-Style Diffuser | Stage 2 Tune (Simon MotorSport) | Macht Schnell Pulleys | Carbon Fiber LowKick Trunk Spoiler

                        2003 E46 M3 - Carbon Black / Imola Red (BLOWN)
                        Mods: Rear Smoked LEDs | Front Smoked Corner Lights | 4300K Phillips 85122+ Bulbs | BMC Drop-In Panel | Matt Black Kidney Grilles | 7500K CCFL | Matt Black Side Grilles | FOX SS Muffler | VIEZU Remap | CSL Carbon Fiber Splitters | EvoSport Under Drive Pulley Kit | K&N Cold Air Intake | K&N Scoops | Hawk Carbon-Ceramic Brake Pads | R1Concepts Zinc-Coated Cross-Drilled Rotors | Agency Power Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines | Hyper Black M3 Competition Rims | FXR Bi-Xenon Projectors w/ Clear Lenses | 70% 3M Tinting
                        1997 E39 528i - Champagne Beige / Sand Beige (SOLD)
                        Mods: Front & Rear OEM Facelift | K&N Cold Air Intake | Straight Pipes | MAF Delete | Custom Made Air Intake Elbow | 3.15 LSD Differential | SplitFire Spark Plugs | E36-7 Z3 OEM 17" Rims | 50% 3M Tinting

                        Need Assistance?
                        eMail:
                        Rafik@bmwclubuae.com


                        @Rafik_Jabbour (Link)

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                          #13
                          600hp FTL :thumbsdown:

                          when are they gonna stop!?!

                          BMW history:
                          07 Z4MC | 01 330ci | 99 Z3R | 93 325ic

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                            #14
                            Unlike Audis and Mercs, BMW isnt concentrating much on HPs or straight line challenges, what its concentrating more on is the handling which, Ahem, other cars lack..

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